English: The speaking voice of Ricky Gervais, from the BBC Radio 4 programme Desert Island Discs. – "It was more my own phobia, fame, than it was actually terrible. It's not that bad and I can't whinge, but It didn't make sense to me. The worrying thing, more and more, is that people don't really know the difference between someone who appears in Hollyoaks and someone who invents a cure for cancer. That's the problem. They did a university survey recently amongst 10-year-olds and they asked them what they wanted to be when they grow up and they said "famous". Not even a footballer. Not even a model. Just famous. That'll do. And I think it's the short-cut. They see George Clooney, and they go "he's happy" and all those things, and they don't realise that he's happy because he does something well and he's got a body of work and he's got pride in what he does."